Learning and Teaching
Committee
Subject: Modular MSc: Discussion with Jaguar Land Rover (JLR)
Origin: Richard Stobart and Jane Horner, AAE
Aeronautical & Automotive Engineering has been
approached by Jaguar Land Rover (JLR) to participate in a consortium of
universities delivering taught postgraduate courses to JLR staff. The other
universities are Warwick, Coventry and Cranfield, with the Warwick Manufacturing
Group (WMG) playing the lead role. A representative of WMG, Alastair Keddie,
has also had a telephone discussion with the DVC regarding this activity.
JLR have identified subject areas in which there is a skills
shortage and then have also identified potentially suitable modules from the
four universities’ module catalogues. Modules from Loughborough make up
the majority of their module “wish list”, with the majority of
modules coming from AAE. JLR also have a strong interest in modules in Systems
Engineering and EEE have been kept informed of the discussions.
Briefly, JLR wants its engineers to study material over a
number of years as various skills requirements are identified. This material
would be delivered by whichever university JLR considers is most expert for the
requirement. JLR would also like to be able to influence the content of the
taught modules to best fit their needs. As an incentive for their staff to
study, they want recognised academic awards to be obtained at different stages.
Rather than the usual Loughborough model of registering for an MSc, JLR want to
follow the model of first Post Grad Certificate, which can then be topped up to
Post Grad diploma and finally topped up to MSc. JLR understand that there will
be assessment requirements and appear to fully committed to the concept of
rigorous assessment tailored to the correct level. It has been agreed that
while WMG will do the administration for the project and will liaise with the
four universities, the qualification will be awarded by the university that
contributes most credits and/or the individual project module to the award
At a meeting at JLR held on 8th October 2009, it
became clear that cost will be a major factor in where JLR decide to source
modules. They requested a pricing policy against a number of scenarios
including, for example, a fully open version of the course and year by year
variation in student numbers. The Finance Office has been contacted to help
with the costing. One unresolved question concerns how the University recovers
costs associated with collaborative provision when the number of LU modules
taken by any one student may be very variable.
JLR is concerned for cost reasons that modules are not specially
customised to their requirements. A good
fit to requirements will be enough with JLR topping up as needed.
AAE is requesting approval from Operations Committee to
continue with the discussions with JLR. The agreed next steps with JLR include
a review of our pricing policy and a discussion between LU staff and JLR
engineers on module content.
This document drafted for Operations Committee is also being
submitted to LTC with an additional page raising issues regarding teaching
provision and quality assurance.
19th October 2009
Issues to Raise with LTC
·
JLR
see the programme consisting of modules that fill various skills requirements
rather than a collection of modules that will deliver the stated learning
outcomes of the programme. This will not present problems if the modules are
drawn from a narrow field
·
JLR
“pick and mix” view of module catalogues has taken no account of
module level. At the meeting at JLR it was explained to them that any PG
qualification must be delivered at level 7, with possibly 30 credits at level
6. JLR have LU material which is level 4 and 5 on their wish list
·
What
LU consider to be level 7 may not align with the other universities
·
JLR
view this as training rather than education. However JLR will be open to the
arguments that the University delivers education not training. This needs to be
discussed in a future meeting with JLR
·
There
will be a need to supply maths support to the students. JLR have already raised
this as a question. How is the cost covered? JLR have introduced the notion of
non-credit bearing elements in the course.
·
JLR
want to have a strong say in the module contents. This again may result in the
suggestion of module content at the wrong level. Also the issue of paying for
significant module development. JLR
equally have stated that they want to control costs by choosing a good fit to
their requirements.
·
The
proposed MSc will require alignment of the programme regulations at all four
universities and agreed QA procedures
·
Also
require alignment of assessment “expectations”
·
The
individual investigative project should ideally be the same module weight at
all partner universities
·
The
model put forward by JLR is of the MSc being a top-up on the award of a PG
diploma which itself tops up a PG cert. This could put the University in the
position of “topping” up a PG dip (and cert) in which it had
contributed zero credit.
·
In
a collaboration of this form the process of awarding marks most be above board
and transparent. Pressure could be put to align marking across the four
Universities
·
WMG
will be “running” the programme for JLR. This means LU needs to be
clear about what fee actually comes to LU
·
Recovery
of collaborative costs. Does this mean a minimum number of LU modules per
student ?
Richard Stobart and Jane Horner
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